N: You want to be invisible but you have an idea of publishing a book. You’re quite active on your social media. I guess that means you want your name to be written somewhere. At some point, you want to be seen. You’ve got the title of the first woman artist who travelled walking in Turkey,  it seems as if you don’t want to be that invisible and “null”?

D: Of course, I live in this life too...

One year ago, I wasn’t announcing and sharing my walking travels at all. Nobody knew I was walking. Then I said “collecting the knowledge and keeping experience to yourself is great hoarding.” When you look at Mevlana, if he didn’t speak in lodges, about “being no one”, “mysticism” in his writings, we wouldn’t see the truth through Mevlana’s eyes. And then I said to myself: “none of them were hoarding. What’s this arrogance?”

 

N: At this exact point I’d also like to say that when you go to the house of those people, have tea with them, share this with them. Being independent might sound like a dominant saying but I’m talking about this exact state. In this feeling of naivety, our cores are actually the same.

D: You’re right, I can say that the story of this naivety came to me in the last seven months. Being “us” rather than individuality.

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N: What’s your next confrontation going to be?

D: After Japan, I had a dream. I’d like to go to 81 cities, meet youngters in university, giving motion and mindfulness workshops, assist them in discovering their bodies. As a result of that, I wish for them to move freely, think in easy circumstances.

At the end of the day, “no” language is not understood. I wanted to give an education that can provide personal spaces for body language that can settle more. I used to be afraid of reaching more people and touching people’s lives. Now I’m more generous, I find sharing valuable. Being aware of their personal spaces, maybe not being conscious of what they want but being conscious of what they don’t want, using their body language freely and in an aware way, in this eternal possibility, cowardly or bravely, whatever it is, it is imortant to step ahead on their own.